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    Me and Callum7 (phatcow7) spycrabbed for 2 ref. After we got started I quickly lost 3-0. As a joke I disconnected from the server acting like I had "run". Shortly after though I added him on steam to give him the 2 ref that I owed him. I sent him the offer and went to bed as at this time it was roughly 11 o clock and I was quite tired and thought nothing of it. The next day I wake up around 10am and check my backpack.tf to see a notification that I had a -trust on my profile. I thought to myself that's strange as I remembered offering the 2 ref the night before. I check my sent offers to see that the 2 ref I had sent had not been accepted. I messaged phatcow to ask him why he banned me because I had sent the ref the night before. After saying this he said he didn't know what I was talking about and told me to re send the offer. I did as said requesting that he remove the -trust he had left on my profile earlier. He said he would and I sent him the metal. After a while he accepts and removes me. I thought that had meant he had removed the comment off my backpack.tf profile but when I checked it was still there. I added him back to see what was going on. He accepted me back and I asked what was going on. He said that If I wanted to be unbanned from the server and him to remove the -trust off my profile I would have to give him my unusual. I thought this was a joke and I was correct as he later said It was just a joke. After that however he was more serious in saying that if I wanted to be unbanned and for him to remove the comment I would have to give him my Mannrobics taunt valued at 1.15 keys. I thought this was also a joke but was mistaken. I said that I didn't want to give him my taunt for free and he seemed to deal with it alright. Moments later though he set his interests on my fubar fanfare taunt valued at 23.88 ref. I said that I already told him that I didn't want to give away items for free. He kept hassling me to give it to him and I said if he removed the negative comment I could give him a deal. He did this and replaced the negative comment with a positive one saying that I gave him the 2 ref I owed and that it was all cleared up (the truth). We negotiate for a bit and I eventually say I could give him the fubar fanfare for 17ref (much lower than it's bp.tf price) and he says alright. We make the trade and end things being civil with one another. Although I had lost a bit of ref I was happy with how it turned out and went out to play some basketball at my neighbors place. A while after I had finished I came back home and checked my backpack.tf to see he had once again removed the positve comment replacing with "nvm person ran from the crab and cancled the trade after" in his exact words. This comment is a BLATANT lie because I did send the 2 ref (proof below). I believe what phatcow7 said was extremely shady and clearly seen in the chat logs (below) acts of extortion used by him saying if I gave him items he could use his connections with admins to get me unbanned which is straight bribery. In my opinion this is phatcow abusing his admin contacts to get me to give him items.

    (note I also am aware of what I said in the chat logs may of seemed quite extreme but I was only joking around and not saying those things seriously)

     

    CHAT LOG

    https://pastebin.com/HyK0Mbj8

    2 ref given proof.PNG

    fubar fanfare trade.PNG


      Appeal Information
    Name: crepcheck
    SteamID: STEAM_0:1:155943946
    Ban Reason: Spycrab Fraud
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    I'm making a comment here because I do not have crepcheck added and I feel this information based on facts is urgent enough to be displayed here for them to see.

     

    I'm looking at the chatlogs you provided, item histories and trust pages and this is basically extortion. I'm no staff member and even though you did run as a joke I reckon you should submit a player report on Callum7. He was hesitant to remove a vindicated negative trust from your profile, attempted to extort you of your unusual/Mannrobics/Fubar Fanfare taunts, claimed his Steaming Sergeant's Drill was once worth 54 keys and still may have been even though he damn-well knows it isn't (since he has had it for a good while now), mocked you by repeating what you were saying and, after what seemed to be a good ending to all this, STILL hasn't removed your negative trust on backpack.tf. On top of it all, him saying things like 'I can probably get you unbanned' portrays completely unjustifiable, unbalanced power in an equal relationship. Callum7 AKA 'Phatcow7' has as many rights as you, crepcheck.

     

    For what it devolved into, I would personally urge you to make a player report on Callum7 so that admins can respond to that end of the situation as opposed to your appeal, which I cannot will not comment towards.

     

    Thanks,

    Hoste.

     

    P.S. For the 'SteamID' section for appeals and reports, it needs the ID32 rather than the Steam Community address. The Steam ID32 looks like: STEAM_0:0:123456789. To find your own ID32 or others', go to Steamrep and paste the Steam Community Link in and it will display the relevant information. For your account, your ID32 is STEAM_0:1:155943946.

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    Running from a crab in general will get you in a lot of trouble, but you did eventually own up to your mistake, which in this case didn't go well for you.

     

    Callum is a server regular and knows the rules, but this isn't his first time posing as an admin: (I had an incident with him when he said to me that I was going to lose my donator because I had an opinion about him/ check his and my logs, it actually happened). This report more seems to be on the player side. 

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    I find this very concerning. 

     

    Whilst running from a crab, even as a joke is always a dumb thing to do, crepcheck seems to genuinley be apologetic about the whole situation and approached Callum with a level of maturity and seemingly sincere regret.

    Your appeal is under review.

     

    The extortion accusations here will be followed up by myself and Munted.

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    Oh no I'm in trouble

    Mate you said you lost connection how stupid once you crabbed I said gg and in 1 sec you are gone you only said it was a joke Bec I reported you on egc

    mate I see you on egc servers a lot and if I get banned now the my life is over

    i am only trying to help the community 

    And you're just trying to get me banend for your revenge 

    Mate if I haven't report you in egc you wouldn't have added me and ask me these questions. Means that you lost a spy crab and you ran away 

    so this means if I haven't got you banned on egc then you would not have added me and give me the 2 ref

    and you didn't do it as a joke you did it on purpose 

    trying to get me banned Bec I caught you running away

    i know my behaviour now is stupid and rude to everyone Bec I feel really stressed so I can't think of anything so I'm sorry if I was rude and mate you gave me a discount from 23 to 17 ref you even said it in the chat so I accepted Bec good profit I said 16 and you said 17 and a deal. And when I unfriended you you and your mate went to my BP and gave me 2 negative trust before and now it has been removed. Mate so if you have any questions tell me creep check.

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    Stated he wanted to trade his Unusual to the Server for Events, was asked 3 times in the trade if he was sure to which he replied 'Yes I love this server, and just want to give back'. However after 6 requests failed to confirm the trade. He was simply doing this so I would 'make him a winner'. It has also been reported to me by several regulars that Phatcow/Callum has tried impersonating staff several times, threatening to ban players etc.

    Personally I find him to be rude, offensive, spams constantly, talks out his arse when it comes to server rules and knowing what they are, constantly backseat admins and when asked to kindly stop is an absolute smartarse with replies like 'it's ok I got this'.

    I know this may have little to no relevance with regards to the spycrab situation but it certainly does support my request and I'm sure others to have Phatcow/Callum looked at more closely and possibly facing consequences for his actions.

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    Well great in getting banned permanently I was going to buy keys for life time Bec j love the. Server but no I failed well guys have a nice time

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    @phatcow7 But that's the thing dude I contacted you before I had any idea about the Report/Ban/-Trust comment. And I'm gonna be honest I know I said I lost connection the next day but that was only because I was scared because I had just woke up and seen that I couldn't be trusted on backpack.tf and I was banned from one of my favorite servers!

    Also I would like to thank everyone for their consideration as I really do like the EGC servers

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    I would highly recommend you both wait for a final conclusion from the EGC team before you come to a conclusion yourselves.

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    40 minutes ago, phatcow7 said:

    Well great in getting banned permanently I was going to buy keys for life time Bec j love the. Server but no I failed well guys have a nice time

    Can we clarify something? No one here cares for your unusuals or donations. Stop trying to use them as a incentive for admins to not punish you. We appreciate donations from users who are kind and wish to support the community, not from users who think they can manipulate our systems with items. You need to grow up, and fast or a perm ban is coming your way.

     

    37 minutes ago, crepcheck said:

    @phatcow7 But that's the thing dude I contacted you before I had any idea about the Report/Ban/-Trust comment. And I'm gonna be honest I know I said I lost connection the next day but that was only because I was scared because I had just woke up and seen that I couldn't be trusted on backpack.tf and I was banned from one of my favorite servers!

    Also I would like to thank everyone for their consideration as I really do like the EGC servers

    Thanks for the report. Unfortunately you ran from a crab, plain and simple. Phatcow did the right thing and reported you and gave you -trust. Now there is nothing against removing -trust if someone pays back, and that's what happened here.  We generally give users a term of 24 hours to rectify crabbing grievances in case they did lose connection legitimately or some other issue prevented them from trading their opponent. This scenario is blurry at best, I am not going to assume you were or were not attempting to do the right thing. Considering you paid back the items and you appear sincere about the whole situation I am going to accept your appeal and unban you from EGC. Please make sure you never have issues crabbing again.

     

    ----------- Discussion unrelated to appeal below. I am using this appeal to deal with some standing issues with Phatcow ---------

    Everyone can imply their assumptions that Phatcow was trying to extort you and implying he could get you unbanned for discounts. In reality, if i am going to be blunt, Phatcow makes dumb decisions. You asked him to remove your trust, and he asked for the ref he won, which is more than fair in my opinion. After you gave him the ref he removed his negative trust. Did he use this situation to his advantage to get a discount on an item he wanted? Yes, he did. It's not uncommon though. It is up to you to agree or not to agree to a trade regardless of the circumstances, if he guaranteed you that you would be unbanned if you gave him items, Phatcow would be perm banned right now, but he didn't. He simply stated he knows the owners and can try get you unbanned, and he actually came to me and asked me if I could unban you as you gave him his items back, and I said no. He was honest in that regard.

     

    Now don't get me wrong, Phatcow was right at the line, and he almost crossed it, but in saying that, he never made an explicit agreement to you and promised something he could not offer for payment. He simply used the situation of you wanting to not have negative trust to appeal to your trading side and get a discount. In all fairness you are the one who ran from a crab on him. He was a victim and after your interaction with each other you both became victims of your own poor choices. In regards to that matter, Phatcow will not be punished for organizing a trade with you after you ran from a crab, from all the evidence provided it is simply a trade in which you both agreed to take part on relatively fair terms.

     

    @phatcow7 Hey there buddy. I am going to use this report to say something to you.You have been causing trouble around this community. You constantly badger me on discord about useless things. You constantly offer items or unusuals as donations for events or EGC donator and you never follow through. You spam and apparently from what I hear you are making untrue claims that you are "tight" "friends" or "close" with the founders to use this as a stepping stone to get what you want.

     

    Let me clarify something right now. We are not "tight", "friends" or "close". You are a member of this community and like all other members I will do my best to help you follow the rules, to resolve situations or answer reports. Stop causing trouble in this community, I do not want to hear you making false statements about our relationship within this community. If I get proof of false accusations or statements from you regarding me or the admins you will be permanently removed from this community.

     

    As for trading Freakshow numerous times to donate to events, or get EGC donator and then cancelling out the trades, you will be receiving a 1 week ban for trolling admins, fake trading and wasting staff time. Admins here are dedicated and take these things seriously, they do not have time to waste with your childish games. Make sure it doesn't happen again. If you continue to cause issues among users within this community you will be permanently removed.

     

    Regards,

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    Thank you so much! Again extremely sorry that this whole thing had to blow up as much as it did I know It was dumb and I have definitely learnt my lesson. Thank you for everyone's support. 

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